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29 November 2007
Mike Spinelli and Matt Farah go at it in the Garage Topics: Ferrari Dino, Lamborghini SUV, Porsche Panamera, the "New" Delorean, and street racing.
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Comments
but limits imo should be in the 80's so when everyone is doing that speed its not as dangerous
Lambo SUV... really? Why?! What a waste of materials. IM crying!
I think Porsche's Panamera is sick! Common.. ugliest car EVER? thats quite a statement.. i'd gladly give you a handfull of MUCH uglier cars than the Panamera!!
Porsche Mini... I'd buy one. Plane and simple!
Porsche Golf.. ehhh..not so much. It would HAVE to be a Mini competiter!
Deloreans allllll the way!!! I want to build a track day version, with a cage, super wide fenders, fat tires, racing seats, drop an LS7 in it. Mmmmmm
I agree on raising the speed limit, and as JF said it really depends on where its at though. Why isn't there a Autobahn-esch highway straight across the US. That would be so sweet.
the show has potential. next time you debate get a moderator.
Ferrari Dino..IS an F-Car named after Enzo's son...Great Car!!
Lambo SUV...HELL YES!!...and they better put an LP640 block in it...makes perfect sense!...Porsche sales were up 17% from last year and the US market is the largest...and guess what was the horse pulling the cart...go ahead...say it..CAYENNE..the SUV led all sales.
Delorean:...Matt what can I say...Your NUTS!....car should be used as a paperweight...the only good thing is that it is SS.
Street Racing...thumbs down....take your need for speed to a track...there are plenty out there...quite frankly it is more about the drivers than the cars....todays sports cars FAR EXCEED the driving ability of the majority of the people who buy them...spend money on a driving school!!
Soooo...whens the next show??
Good Job Guys!
With the new Formula 1 8 cylinders driving technology, a Ferrari V8 can't be denied by any means.
I'm not a purist, but I believe the DINO is a bad idea and pre owned Ferrari's should still remain the entry level Ferrari.
Great show, great concept and I look forward to seeing more Mike and Matt.
Lambo SUV, garbage, Lambos have to sell their cars to pay for their race team, are they getting into Baha ? hmmm.
Porsche Panamera, uh.. still but fugly. no further comment.
Delorean, what a waste, just leave the name as is, and the car as well.
Street Racing, love it, do it every chance I get, I love cops, just hate getting pulled over by them, whats wrong with blocking off a road and running some Hondas ? ya gotta train somewhere to make into the bigs !
great first show !! congratulations !
with some more tweaks on topic delivery, this is gonna be a fun show !
As far as Ferrari, Porsche, and Lamborghini, I'll reserve judgement until I see it.
Street racing is a problem because stupid upper middle class kids who think they are "hood" buy Civics, put a fart can on, then think they drive the fastest car in the world. These kids then drive their car like they have the fastest car in the world and end up killing people. The Fast and the Furious has totally fucked up modern car culture so badly it's not even funny. I'm going to stop right now because if I keep going I might just go postal on a Honda product.
I'm not trying to be an asshole, just help the process a lil...i plan to keep watching, i think this show has alot of potential, dont get discouraged!!
New LM002? Sure, as long as it's still a boxy monstrosity. And if it goes 200MPH.
Panamera? Hey, if anyone can do a super-exclusive luxo-sedan and do it right, it's Porsche. Maybe the second generation won't be so icky looking.
DeLorean? I saw an "Old" DMC-12 driving around last night and I cracked up. Give it an engine worth 60 grand and they're golden.
Speed limits on highways are pretty stupid, and I'll just leave it at that.
Keep it up!!!
McLaughlin group? That works because they take the most talented, well educated, well informed people in their field & place the most current & important global & political issues to them.
Having said that, now that all the congratulations have been done, perhaps we can help with future shows?
What do I want to see? Auto News, Information, Concepts, Prototypes. Everyone has an opinion & thats what pubs are for.
Dino? SOOO much $ for a 6 cylinder & so little power?
I duno. Im sure a base model vette would kick its Modena butt.
Re. Lambo SUV? Pure sports car builders (Fer, Lambo, Lotus) must remain pure to their DNA. As soon as they deviate, they will loose the foundation on which they were built. Fer can have Maserati or Alfa badge it as a Special Edition SUV.
Delorean - I would love to see a Mid-engine LS-X in there with upgraded brakes & suspension! Where do I sign?
Porsche Pana? Don't knock it til you try it. All the harsh comments could very well kill any future products in the pipeline from any other manufacturer.
Street Racing? Dont do it! [Excessively] Just look at Nick Hogan. Its a matter of seriously injuring: 1. Yourself 2. Your passengers 3. The other vehicles you collide with 4. Their passengers 5. Any other pedestrians.
Car & Driver once had an article from an Emergency Ambulance driver from Germany who wrote that although there were fewer accidents per capita compared to the US, the results were almost always fatal! Think about it. Speed must always be respected at all times.
I attended a conference with the FIA where they were promoting traction control to reduce young driver fatalities. Is it not a poor carpenter who blames their tools?
I could not agree with you more when you say that a race licence should be mandatory. I envision a 3 stage licence where after stage 3 having completed advanced driving & racing licences, insurance companies waive huge discounts thereby encouraging the majority of the population to obtain level 3. Thank you.
Lambo SUV - hell no.
Panamera - HELL NO
Porsche Mini - only if it is a BMW M coupe killer
Delorean - JOKE
Street Racing - OK so the cars are better, but the people are still idiots. Joe nosepicker doing 90 scares the hell out of me.